Curse

Gregslot · Jun 13, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Some of you are forgetting every class can go /R and equip antidote signet.

blackknight1337 · Jun 13, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Good:
Ancestral Rage spike is gone.

Bad:
Mystic Regen buff. It was perfectly fine as is. This just shows a.net is caving in. They buffed this skill soley so people could 55/105 with this skill again... which is the reason they nerfed it in the first place. Stupid.

Ancestors Rage spike has been gone for months. Ever since they changed it to an enchant, then back to a skill, it still hasn't stacked.

Mystic regen. Was nerfed due to abuse in gvg, particularly on mind blast split eles. Never had the slightest thing to do with pve, let alone farming.

moriz · Jun 13, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

But what the hell is with Barbed Arrows? What makes it so much better than [apply poison] to keep putting these stupid conditions on it?

it's mainly because of this combo:
[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]]

now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances.

DarkNecrid · Jun 13, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Those seriously give me a bad feeling about this, makes PvP further more of a closed circle. Well! we still have PvXwiki. No?

Ancestor's was like, the best AoE skill next to Splinter Weapon. srsly.

FGJ isn't even a big nerf. I can count the number of times I've seen FGJ used in serious PvP on one hand.

FoxBat · Jun 13, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by blackknight1337

GG on being clueless.....

Ancestors Rage spike has been gone for months. Ever since they changed it to an enchant, then back to a skill, it still hasn't stacked.

There's this thing called balanced builds, where 1 copy of ancestors could assist on a spike.

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Mystic regen. Was nerfed due to abuse in gvg, particularly on mind blast split eles. Never had the slightest thing to do with pve, let alone farming.

I'd love to see a mind blast bar with 4+ enchants on it... or the situations when mainteam it's worth a monk putting holy veil or some junk on you just to counter poison degen. (If the enchantment cap was targeting anything in "PvP", it was stoneflesh tanks.)

Brimstonez · Jun 13, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

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Originally Posted by Yichi

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

You have to be joking or sarcastic. No offense, but no one is actually stupid enough to have wrote this being serious.

And the award for fast thinking goes to...

Giga_Gaia · Jun 13, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Edit:@ Hyper Cutter, what makes Barbed Arrows better then Apply Poison is that Rangers have lots of ways to apply poison, but not a lot of ways to apply bleeding (barbed trap and some vanguard skills are it I think). Barbed arrows allows you to combo poison and bleeding together (poision tip signet for example), which is it's appeal.

I always found Screaming Shot to be very effective at applying bleeding, which leaves me room for another preparation.

Snow Bunny · Jun 13, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

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Originally Posted by moriz

it's mainly because of this combo:
[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]]

now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances.

Cripshot is unblockable.

*Paris* · Jun 13, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by moriz

it's mainly because of this combo:
[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]]

now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances.

^^ What Snow said. Oh, and I'd probably never use any of these skills, so this update was kind of a letdown.

shoyon456 · Jun 13, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Adresses nothing of what I hoped it would.

Oh well, there's always next week :P

Magikarp · Jun 13, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07

my mesmer has been happy with everything as of late.. all of my other characters.. not so much lol..

btw... WTF, when will Izzy get SWAY off of the face of the planet????

ManMadeGod · Jun 13, 2008, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz

* Soul Bind: decreased casting time to 1 second; functionality changed to: "For 30 seconds, every time target foe is healed, the healer takes 20..80 damage. This hex ends if target is suffering from a Smiting Prayers hex."

is this useful yet?

Basically it's another Scourge Healing, same dmg, can't stack tho.
But it will be a little better than Scourge Healing because it's on Curses line.

Honestly I am disappointed with this change. Just another copy, not creative at all.
Still not good enough for an elite tho.
Add -3 degen or something.

This hex ends if target is suffering from a Smiting Prayers hex...
I think "every time target foe is healed, the healer takes 20..80 damage if target is not under any smiting prayers hex" is much more reasonable, because it's an elite.

-Lotus- · Jun 13, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

never thought I would see a nerfe to one of the worst elites in the game... the rest of this isnt surprising, just stupid.

Skye Marin · Jun 13, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Soul Bind would be more handy if it triggered on heals and enchantments. Adding weapon spells to that would be bonus too... a guy can dream can't he?

I think I would just like more. More meaningful buffs, relevant nerfs, and maybe some reasoning behind certain skill changes.

Dragonious · Jun 13, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31

The Soul Bind rework was done to diversify necros in GvG. Not PvE. Not HA. GvG. It can be pretty scary in a hex stack build that doesnt want to use the Smiting Prayers line just for 1 or 2 skills and wants to get those all important Curse skills in. I never saw it being played before, so why not see how it does in a cookie cutter hex build and then we can see if it was a bad decision. Some of you guys have no idea what's going on here...Balth's Pendelum...another very strong skill in a cookie cutter Smiter's Boon build. That's why it was nerfed a bit.

SpiritThief · Jun 13, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

wtf is this. Do they ever try for balance??

Everytime they come out and change crap they always set it up so everyone will be doing the same thing.

Now its Antidote signet, that will be spammed forever and a day but dumbass left it at 4 recharge? So now rangers not only block well over 50% of the attacks against them, now they are god-like to conditions....whoever does this must have been dropped on their head as a child.

Someone needs to go explain to them what the word balance means.

Age · Jun 13, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

I don't understand the Symbol of Wrath or are to many abusing it in pre that is where is great not so much in post.I don't think it would ever get used in pvp.

I agree with Rotten on Barbed Arrows now can they do the same with Etheral Light make it not inturrptable.I stilll use Orisons because of that.

HawkofStorms · Jun 13, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

There's this thing called balanced builds, where 1 copy of ancestors could assist on a spike.

I'd love to see a mind blast bar with 4+ enchants on it... or the situations when mainteam it's worth a monk putting holy veil or some junk on you just to counter poison degen. (If the enchantment cap was targeting anything in "PvP", it was stoneflesh tanks.)

QFT, all the counter points I was going to say. Please, don't insult people blacknight.
Edit: Ohh, the mods cleaned up his post already, way to stay on top of things. I'll edit mine then myself.

And yes Giga, screaming shot is an option, but its too energy extensive to see much play. The point with preps like apply and barbed is to spread the condition to muliple targets, not camp on one guy, which is what you do in a BA/Screaming build.

Nemesis of God · Jun 13, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

No Shadow Form, Ursan, ''SY!'', ''TNTF'' nerfs... good

upier · Jun 13, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

NO WAI!11
A.Net is balancing PvE!

And people actually thought A.Net won't take the easy way in doing that.